Beginning today we shall have three consecutive days of prayers. Today 11.6.2014 is Vaikashi Visagam, an auspicious day to hold prayers for Lord Murugan. Tomorrow will be Guru Naal, a Thursday, like all Thursdays is auspicious for the worship of one's Guru or Master and it is also a full moon which is of course an auspicious day for the Siddhas where they worship Lord Shiva. The following day 13.6.2014 is the day of transit of Jupiter or Guru Bhagawan and an auspicious day to hold prayers too.(13.6.14 as per Vakiya Panchangam which is widely followed in temples and 19.6.14 as per Thirukanitha Panchangam)
I have had the opportunity to chat with Velayudham Karthikeyan, the administrator of Sitthan Arul several times on Google +. He has posted many invaluable information on his blog. He has kindly shared many of his thoughts and some of Agathiyar's dictates with me. I think he would not mind me sharing them with you.
Chatting with him, I could see the humbleness in him. When I praised him for his effort in posting the revelations by Agathiyar to his friend the late Jeeva Nadi Guru of Chennai, in his blog, he very humbly brushed aside all praises and reminded me that all was Agathiyar's doing.
Here are a few wonderful views he held during our conversation (chat).
Here are a few wonderful views he held during our conversation (chat).
"அது அகத்தியரின் விருப்பம். அந்த தொகுப்பே அவருடையது. முன் சொன்னபடி, தலைப்பு கூட அவர் அருள், அவர் தீர்மானம். இதில் எனக்கு என்று ஒன்றுமே இல்லை. எல்லா புகழும் அவரையே சென்று சேரும்"
"It is Agathiyar's wish. The post (referring to the late Jeeva Nadi Guru of Chennai's revelations) is his. Even the title (Sitthan Arul) was by his grace and his decision (given by Agathiyar). All praise goes to him."
"ஏதும் அருளுவது அகத்தியர் என்கிற பட்சத்தில் நாம் யார் அதற்க்கு ஒரு விலையை நிச்சயிக்க. இது என் கருத்து."
"How can we state a prize when all (happenings) is by his grace. This is my opinion."
"மனித நேயம் தான் முருகர் விரும்பும் அன்பு. அதை எந்த உயிர் என்று பாராமல் நாம் மனிதர்கள் கொடுத்து பழகவேண்டும்."
"Lord Muruga prefers love and compassion. We should learn to show love to all beings."
"அகத்தியரை தொடர்ந்தது முதல் ஒரு விஷயத்தை புரிந்து கொண்டேன். அவர் நடத்தும் நாடகத்தில், எந்த பாத்திரம் யாருக்கு சேரும் என்று அறிந்தே அருளுகிறார். அதற்கேற்றார் போல் தான் நிகழ்ச்சிகளும் நடக்கிறது."
"After following Agathiyar, I realized something. In his play, he decides which role is appropriate for whom and showers his grace accordingly. And things happen accordingly."
"நான் யோசிக்கும் போது, ஆசை தான் மீண்டும் மீண்டும் பிறக்க காரணம். அதையே அறுத்துவிட்டால் என்ன? என்று தான் தோன்றும்."
"When I think about it, desire is the reason for taking rebirth. What if we detach from desires?"
"அகத்தியருக்கு அடியவர் என்றால் அது இந்த ஜென்மத்துடன் முடிவதல்ல. எத்தனையோ ஜென்மங்கள் தொடர்பு இருந்தால் தான் அவரிடம் இருக்க முடியும்."
"Being a servant of Agathiyar means it does not end with this birth. Also coming to Agathiyar means having to take many many births serving him."
To my question on why the Siddhas and the gurus consider this current period in time as the Gnana Siddhar Kaalam, Karthikeyan replies,
"Even though Agathiyar has not specifically mentioned about it, in over all manner when we see he insists gnana path as guidance. What I came to know recently is in Thuraiyur Agathiyar Asramam, the Swami (Thavathiru Rengaraja Desigar) reads naadi. On May 18th, it came that Subramanyar (Lord Murugan) has come and taken charge and people need not worry and the world will be guided by Gnanis."
The transliteration of the Nadi revelation is as follows: "Aasaan Muruga perumaan aatchi poruppai yettrullaar. Ini jnanavaan aatchi appa", which translated means, "Lord Murugan has taken over the reign, it is the wise Gnanis that will administer."
As to what would be the outcome during this golden period or age, Karthikeyan adds, "Intha manitharkal maaruvaarkal. Nalam vilayum. Ini kaliyin baathippu kurayum", that is, "People shall change (for the better). Good will prevail. The adverse effects of Kali (Yuga) will lessen."
To my question as to how a particular incident in a particular place can effect others far far away, Karthikeyan beautifully answers my query, "Oru yaagam nadanthaal, athan pugai, agni, balan ellaa idaththilum paravi suththap paduththuvathu pol, ingu varum maatram ulagai aalum", meaning, "Just as the fumes, the flame and effects of a Yagam or the fire ritual spreads and reaches everywhere and thus cleanses the atmosphere, so too does the change that takes place here, reigns the world."
Karthikeyan also mentioned a miracle that took place at Palani a year back. A transliteration by Karthikeyan,
Bogar's Jenma Natchatththiram is on 27.5.14. My relative and I had been there last year (in Palani for the event). Before leaving, we prayed that Bogar should give us his darshan. He came! I did not realized initially. As I looked up while answering a question from my relative, someone walked pass me, his eyes fixed on me. There was a shine in his eyes. I wished him. He gave a smile and nodded and continued walking past me. We were sitted on a bench at that moment. Realizing that I did not realize who he was, he walked some distance and stood there as if doing something. Since there was a large crowd, I did not heed him then.
When we moved to another spot, again he passed us looking at us as he walked by. He disappeared around a corner behind us. Only then did I realize and with my relative, we gave chase. But he was no where to be seen. I became disappointed since I had missed a good opportunity.
Then I thought to myself. I had asked for a darshan. He had given me what I had asked for. I should not be asking for more nor should I regret. That was the compassionate Bogar.
Karthikeyan concluded with a description of how Bogar appeared to him, "Aanaal nalla uyaram. Thejasaana sareeram. Aazhntha paarvai", that is, "But he was tall, a body of Thejas, and a deep penetrating look."
To my question as to how a particular incident in a particular place can effect others far far away, Karthikeyan beautifully answers my query, "Oru yaagam nadanthaal, athan pugai, agni, balan ellaa idaththilum paravi suththap paduththuvathu pol, ingu varum maatram ulagai aalum", meaning, "Just as the fumes, the flame and effects of a Yagam or the fire ritual spreads and reaches everywhere and thus cleanses the atmosphere, so too does the change that takes place here, reigns the world."
Karthikeyan also mentioned a miracle that took place at Palani a year back. A transliteration by Karthikeyan,
"27/05/2014 andru Bogar Jenma Natchaththiram. Pona varudam ithe naalil naanum en uravinar oruvarum ponom. Pogum mun bogaridam, naangal varukirom, vanthu tharisanam kodungal endru vendik konden."
"Vanthaar paarunga. Muthalil unaravillai. Kooda vanthavar yetho kelvi ketkka atharkku bathil sollikkonde nimirnthu paarththen. Adiyenai koornthu gavaniththuk konde nadanthu sendraar. Kannil appadi oru velichcham. Naan vanakkam ayyaa endren. Punnagai pooththapadi thalaiyai aattik konde kadanthu sendraar. Antha neraththil naangal oru benchil amarnthirunthom. Ivan unaravillai endru therinthu kondavar, satru thalli poi yetho seivathu pol nindru kondirunthaar. Koottaam athikam enbathaal naanum gavanikkavillai."
"Naangal nadanthu sendru marupadiyum oru idaththil amarntha pozhuthu, marupadiyum engalai parththuk konde nadnthu sendru, engalukku pinnar valayum paathayil thirumbi ponaar. Sattendru unarntha naan, nanbarai azhaiththuk kondu vegamaaka odip poi avari thedum pozhuthu, avarai yengume kaanavillai. Adadaa, nalla vaaippai nazhuva vittuvittome endru satru varuththam."
"Pinnar thaan yosiththen. Naan kettathu tharisanam. Aathai sevvanave koduththuvittaar. Atharkkumel ethir paarppathum, varuththap paduvathum koodaathu endru theermaaniththuvitten. Mikuntha karunai ullam konda siththar avar."A translation of his amazing encounter.
Bogar's Jenma Natchatththiram is on 27.5.14. My relative and I had been there last year (in Palani for the event). Before leaving, we prayed that Bogar should give us his darshan. He came! I did not realized initially. As I looked up while answering a question from my relative, someone walked pass me, his eyes fixed on me. There was a shine in his eyes. I wished him. He gave a smile and nodded and continued walking past me. We were sitted on a bench at that moment. Realizing that I did not realize who he was, he walked some distance and stood there as if doing something. Since there was a large crowd, I did not heed him then.
When we moved to another spot, again he passed us looking at us as he walked by. He disappeared around a corner behind us. Only then did I realize and with my relative, we gave chase. But he was no where to be seen. I became disappointed since I had missed a good opportunity.
Then I thought to myself. I had asked for a darshan. He had given me what I had asked for. I should not be asking for more nor should I regret. That was the compassionate Bogar.
Karthikeyan concluded with a description of how Bogar appeared to him, "Aanaal nalla uyaram. Thejasaana sareeram. Aazhntha paarvai", that is, "But he was tall, a body of Thejas, and a deep penetrating look."
Later in Karthikeyan's posts of May 29, Agathiyar too mentions that "Ithu Siddhar Kaalam", or "this is the age of the Siddhas."
Then Karthikeyan mentions a means to overcome something that I was facing - my anger. He quotes Agathiyar,
Karthikeyan shares his beliefs too.
"ஒவ்வொரு சூழ்நிலைக்கும் காரணம் கர்மா. அதை உன்னால் மாற்ற முடியாது. உணர முடியும், பிரார்த்தனை செய்தால் எங்களால் மாற்ற முடியும். பிரார்த்தனையுடன் அமரு. நாங்கள் பார்த்துக் கொள்கிறோம் என்றார்."
"Karma is the reason for all occurrences. You can't change that. But can realize it. If you pray, we can change it. Sit in prayer. We shall take care of it."Those were Agathiyar's comforting words.
Karthikeyan shares his beliefs too.
"முதலில் இருந்தே சித்தன் அருள் அகத்தியர் ஆணையால் உருவானது. தலைப்பு கூட அவர் தான் எடுத்துக் கொடுத்தார். அதில் வரும் விஷயங்களும், அவர் யாரெல்லாம் எதை எல்லாம் தெரிந்து கொள்ள வேண்டும் என்று விரும்பினாரோ, அவர்களுக்காக கொடுத்தார். எல்லாமே அவருடையது என்கிற பட்சத்தில், எல்லாம் உங்களுக்கே சமர்ப்பணம் என்ற பொழுது அவர் சொன்னார், "தமிழ் முருகனுக்கு சொந்தம்; நடந்த நிகழ்ச்சிகள் யாருடைய கர்மாவோ, இதில் எனது என்பது என்ன?"
"Sitthan Arul (the blog and the post) is a result of Agathiyar's directive, right from the beginning. Even the name of the blog was given by Agathiyar. It was Agathiyar's desire to disclose the episodes thus revealing messages to those who needed direction. Since all was his, I decided to surrender unto him. That's when Agathiyar questions, "Tamil (the language) belongs to Lord Murugan. All the happenings (narrated in Sitthan Arul) are people's karma. How can I (Agathiyar) claim credit for it?"
"அதை அப்படியே வாங்கி போட்டுவிட்டேன். அதும் இரவல் தான். என்னுடையதல்ல. அவருடையது. உயர்ந்ததாகத்தான் இருக்கும். அதில் எந்த வித சந்தேகமும் இல்லை. இந்த உலகில் நடப்பவை எதுவும், யாருக்கும் சொந்தமில்லை. அது அனைத்தும் இறைவனுக்கு சொந்தம். இதைத்தான் அவர் குறிப்பிடுகிறார்."
Karthikeyan says he carried this statement of Agathiyar in his blog. It was not his but borrowed. It was Agathiyar's words too. "Nothing is ours. It's all God's doing. This is what Agathiyar mentions."
"நான் தினமும் என்னை ஞாபகப் படுத்திக் கொள்கிற ஒரு விஷயம். நான் போகும் பொழுது எதுவுமே கொண்டு போகப் போவதில்லை. அப்படி என்றால் எது என்னுடையது? என்ற எண்ணத்தை உள்ளே புகுத்திக் கொள்வேன். அதனால் எந்த வருத்தமும் வருவதில்லை."
"Each day I remind myself, that I am not taking anything with me (on my demise). If that's the case, then what is mine? When I carry this thought with me, then I do not get disappointed."Karthikeyan reminds me the date of Agathiyar's Jayanthi too,
"மார்கழி மாதம் ஆயில்யம் அகத்தியரின் நட்சத்திரம் என்று சொல்வார்கள். குறித்து வைத்துக் கொள்ளுங்கள்"
"Agathiyar's star is Ahilyam in the Tamil month of Maargazhi. Please take note."He reminds me also about the coming Guru Peyarchi,
"அவர் குரு. இந்த வருடம் குரு பகவான் மிக பலம் பெற்று உச்சத்தில் இருக்கும் காலம். 12 வருடங்களுக்கு ஒரு முறை இதே போல் அமையும். இது சித்தர்கள் காலம். அந்த நேரத்தில் குரு பலம் பெற்று இருக்க, செய்கிற விஷயங்கள் பல மடங்கு உயர்வு பெரும். ஆதலால் எங்கு வாய்ப்பு கிடைத்தாலும், நுழைந்துவிடுங்கள். அபூர்வமாக இப்படி ஒரு வாய்ப்பு கிடைக்கும்."
"He (Agathiyar) is Guru. Guru is strong and at his full strength the coming year (beginning 13.6.14) This only happens once in 12 years. This is the age of the Siddhas. Since Guru is at his peak, all things done will acquire strength in multiple folds, hence, whenever possible participate (in prayers). It is indeed a very rare opportunity."He also shared a unique unheard of concept.
"முகம் மறக்க வேண்டும். அது ஒரு மிக உயர்ந்த தத்துவம்."
"The face has to be forgotten. It is a very high philosophy!"
Even as I posted this post, I saw that Karthikeyan was on line and sent him a message asking for permission to use our conversation. He was gracious enough to remind me that nothing was ours to own!
Vanakam Aiya. ipoluthu thaan adiyen oru post yethi erunthen. Naam pesiyathil silavattrai post seithullen.
Thaagalin anumathiyai naadukindren.
Thaagalin anumathiyai naadukindren.
வணக்கம் திரு சண்முகம் அவர்களே
நேற்று தான் சொன்னேன். என்னுடையது என்று ஒன்றும் இல்லை என்று. என்னிடம் அனுமதி கேட்கவே வேண்டாம். பிறரிடம் பகிர்ந்து கொள்ளவேண்டும் என்ற நோக்கத்தில் தான் அதுவே வெளி வருகிறது. எதையும் எடுத்து பிறருடன் பகிர்ந்து கொள்ளுங்கள்
என் அனுமதி இதற்க்கு தேவை இல்லை என்பதே என் எண்ணம்.